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You're right, Nat. That is pure and simple game-p...

2009-11-16T10:34:30.027-07:00

You're right, Nat. That is pure and simple game-playing retaliation. She insists it is his baby and will expect child support, but he gets no information, and has no say in naming? Have to wonder why she feels justified in not telling him. Seems suspicious to me.

One more thing...I am still appalled by the fact t...

2009-11-16T10:25:06.570-07:00

One more thing...I am still appalled by the fact that she won't tell him the gender of the baby.

I'm glad you put some of the real issues on your b...

2009-11-16T10:23:24.488-07:00

I'm glad you put some of the real issues on your blog so it's not so nebulous for people who haven't been around for the whole story. Unfortunately, you'd have to type for days on end to document all of the wrongs that have occurred just in the past few months.

My poor, poor brother Jon. I know of no one that is brought more joy from being with their children than him and, knowing this, she has struck him where it hurts most. It is selfish, unjust and WRONG. And you're right - it is the children who will suffer the most devastating, lasting effects. Does she really think they won't end up hating her for making it impossible to see their father? I expect that if she continues on this path it will only be about 10 more years before Liz realizes what she has done. And ten years goes so quickly. Maybe by the time they can think for themselves they will choose not to be with her anymore, which would break her heart and is, again, not best for the children. But by then it will be too late and she won't be able to undo the things she's done. I hope and pray that she has a change of heart before it's too late.

Rob did more construction on this wall than I did....

2009-11-15T11:03:13.737-07:00

Rob did more construction on this wall than I did.

how do you track it? I would love to know...I can...

2009-11-14T19:30:44.508-07:00

how do you track it? I would love to know...I can look at my map and see cities..but have no clue if it's from search engines or others? is there a program?

It was actually Monday, November 9 that had the hi...

2009-11-14T18:18:04.944-07:00

It was actually Monday, November 9 that had the high number of hits but the way I track it I can see if it was coming from search engines or others and these were mostly people I know. That's why it is so ironic:) I do enjoy seeing how the search engines pick up particular subjects too, which are coming from Facebook, etc.

amazing how many hits you said you got for this po...

2009-11-14T18:13:29.112-07:00

amazing how many hits you said you got for this post....I know that it depends on what your TITLE is.....because I have had some posts have tons of hits just depending on what my posts' title is....because it pops up in searches on Google etc....
such a sad situation for all involved...total bummer :(

In her mind, Karla can fully justify whatever she ...

2009-11-14T07:19:03.259-07:00

In her mind, Karla can fully justify whatever she does by invoking one simple thought . . . I don't love him anymore.

That thought/feeling/choice makes it all OK.

Hell hath no fury like a mother scorned. Debbie, I...

2009-11-13T08:44:45.337-07:00

Hell hath no fury like a mother scorned. Debbie, I can understand your rage. I imagine I would feel just as you do.

I LOVED watching those videos! She truly inspires...

2009-11-12T23:07:41.109-07:00

I LOVED watching those videos! She truly inspires me to take a stand for the things I believe in!

It is also sad that the girls miss out on a father...

2009-11-11T22:09:09.076-07:00

It is also sad that the girls miss out on a father's daily love and affection - knowing they are loved by their father and having him there and available is something that can never be replaced. There will be scars that never heal. Daughters with involved fathers always fare better in life and love. They also learn to understand their Father in Heaven's love because they can relate it to the love of their earthly father. No "virtual" father, "telephone" father or visiting stranger can possibly have the same impact. If manipulating things to that end is not selfish, I don't know what is. These little girls will quickly forget the passionate and fun father they had - the father that their mother has taken them from, moving them across the country with the full intent of eliminating him from their lives - knowing he cannot find work in S.C. In her self-centered world of her own "happiness" she cannot even see the impact. She was blessed with a father and has no idea what she is doing to these girls by removing them from him. The full extent of what she has done, having him thrown out, forbidden to return, no chance for good-bye and the girls thinking he has just disappeared from their lives is unthinkable. Then to have the nerve to say he abandoned them because he returned to Utah where he could actually find work, where had a home to live in so he wouldn't be in the streets of a strange place and where he was with people who loved him; not those who treated him like dirt, stepped on him and accused him falsely - left him for dead on the street if not for the good Christian Samaritan who helped him. One day....

So sad. I am beyond heartbroken. So unfair and wro...

2009-11-11T13:49:49.581-07:00

So sad. I am beyond heartbroken. So unfair and wrong for Jon to have to miss out on his girls' lives because of such selfishness.

Yes, it is sad and it is wrong, but the solution t...

2009-11-10T09:36:48.200-07:00

Yes, it is sad and it is wrong, but the solution to this problem is not more war and it's not more courts.

A real, permanent, lasting solution will only be found through following the precepts of Jesus Christ.

Reloading, stockpiling more ammunition, and/or seeking greater firepower to prosecute a bigger battle/war next time will not solve this problem. Escalation of armaments by both sides never ends a war it just creates more casualties.

As Tevye said, (paraphrased) "An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth just results in a whole world full of blind and toothless people."

I'm so sorry for Jon, your family and the precious...

2009-11-09T18:20:51.066-07:00

I'm so sorry for Jon, your family and the precious girls.

You have always been an exceptional person/couple!...

2009-11-09T16:13:36.286-07:00

You have always been an exceptional person/couple! You're beating the odds. WAY TO GO!

Well, according to your list, the odds were define...

2009-11-09T15:25:56.520-07:00

Well, according to your list, the odds were definetly against us!

I agree with that too, Debbie. And just because tw...

2009-11-09T09:00:36.598-07:00

I agree with that too, Debbie. And just because two people stay married, it certainly doesn't mean that their marriage is healthy. I think I was looking at bettering my odds, which is what studies in general are able to predict. And, of course, there are exceptions to every single rule. I seriously admire people who have the inner strength to rise above the odds.

I absolutely agree, Ashli. Role models make a HUGE...

2009-11-09T08:45:52.536-07:00

I absolutely agree, Ashli. Role models make a HUGE difference. That's why if the parents have a good marriage, it can be highly predictive of future success. Of course the opposite can also be true - if the parents were unable to make it good, there has to be a subtle sense of this being temporary anyway and they either don't know how to make it good and they live a miserable existence, or they bail.

I highly agree. I had a list of certain "non-negot...

2009-11-09T07:41:13.713-07:00

I highly agree. I had a list of certain "non-negotiables" I was looking for in a mate. Many of these things were on it. One of my criteria (criterian?) may seem very judgmental, but it was that he came from a family with parents who were not divorced. I know that would seem to hold a man responsible for something that would not be his fault. But I felt I only wanted to marry a man who had a healthy marriage modeled for him. It certainly narrowed down my choices, but it sure did help. I think there would certainly be people who would be exceptions to my "rule." But that is what I looked for. It worked for me. He was 27. I was almost 24. We were already established in our careers. Again, I know I probably sound judgmental. But with so many marriages ending in divorce, can you be too careful?

Hitler also rose to power by promissing "change to...

2009-11-05T09:29:20.841-07:00

Hitler also rose to power by promissing "change to people in the midst of post-war blight and the effects of the 1929-'30's Great Depression.

History is replete with examples of leaders who promised "change" that sounded good but turned out to be evil. Julius Caesar destroyed the Roman Republic and replaced it with a dictatorship through the same process.

39 pairs of shoes . . . clothes to go with them . ...

2009-11-03T08:26:48.171-07:00

39 pairs of shoes . . . clothes to go with them . . . and a place of your own big enough to store all of them.

You are blessed.

This is going to be an excellent home when we're f...

2009-10-29T10:09:49.196-06:00

This is going to be an excellent home when we're finished with it. (Well, maybe not "finished" with it since no house is ever "finished".) It sits on a large lot, in an excellent area. It's a very good place to raise children.

The house itself has large open entertaining areas that will be perfect for family parties and get-togethers.

I like this house. It has a heritage of deep love between those who lived in it and I'm sure that tradition will continue with Jenn and her family.

I know - wow! They're mostly doing it themselves ...

2009-10-28T09:30:27.134-06:00

I know - wow! They're mostly doing it themselves with lots of family helping. Ken is the major force and Rob, Jon, Jenn, Nat, the kids have all participated in the demolition. They also have family and friend plumber and electrician who will help as they can - at least on the consultation level. I hope one day I'll see what they love about this house!

It's gonna be fun to watch the progress on this. H...

2009-10-28T08:14:17.586-06:00

It's gonna be fun to watch the progress on this. How long do they anticipate the project taking? Do they plan to do it all themselves or use contractors?

This is the main house -yep!

2009-10-27T22:23:45.411-06:00

This is the main house -yep!